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And as I got older, there were things I could consider -- I could adopt or foster or use a surrogate.

ETonline: Your kids are now four and a half months old. Watkins: I found the first three months to be really difficult.

I understand why sleep deprivation is considered torture, but something happened at 3 months, once they started to sleep more and giggle.

Watkins: I always knew I was going to be a dad, but I didn't know how I was going to be a dad.

I didn't know how beyond the fact it would be a non-traditional route.

Watkins: Here's the deal, some actors are genuinely private people.